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Documentation usefulness - daniels

daniels — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 09:46:02 +0200

Clearly if you'd read them, you would've learned to love Xlib, and never started using XCB.

awesome 3: Lua integration - nikel

nikel — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:02:26 +0200

dwm is cool :D

awesome 3: Lua integration - nikel

nikel — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:59:52 +0200

lua ist ugly. and it's not so simple
implement in some proper stuff
In wmii i can decide, what for language i take. Lua must not necessarily be include in WM. I wuld see now, what can i do whith wmii

Analysing tiling window manager market - meillo

meillo — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:13:02 +0200

Also, dwm users normally compile from upstream source, so popcon stats are not very comparable.

Anyway, nice graph.

Analysing tiling window manager market - foo

foo — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 19:50:38 +0200

you may consider that wmii and xmonad for example weren't pushed by planet.debian.org and the debian community in general after the problems with the ion upstream. that doesn't mean awesome is not nice, i never actually tried it but i think this is also related to its fame.

First release candidate for awesome 3 - carl

carl — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 01:53:39 +0200

that's awesome! (pun intended). I have loved awesome since I started using it a couple months ago and I don't see myself switching back to anything else anytime soon if ever.

I did KDE then Gnome, back to KDE, then to fluxbox which I stayed with for a few years. tried enlightenment 1.0 which was too buggy, back to fluxbox then read about awesome on the planet from your blog. fluxbox is my second choice but I'd say awesome is superior by a long shot.

thanks for all the work!

Extending pango markup attributes - jd

jd — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 08:37:58 +0200

I finally managed to do it using GMarkup API.

Extending pango markup attributes - Puneet Madaan

Puneet Madaan — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 01:38:06 +0200

you can create your own parser... GMarkUp is nothing more then a parser, which is feeding Attributes and layout to Pango rendering engine...
Try this link to understand Pango interaction.

http://www.gnu.org/software/guile-g...

Beside this if you are using it for some project on PC.. give a try to ANTLR, that might be better for parsing, and can generate C++ code too

In case, if you are on embedded platform... then our old friend, the lex and yacc is recommended, rather then hand written parsers for extensibility reasons...

in-fact majority of parsers are already existing, so you only need to work around the rendering codes...

Greetings

[ping] One step further for XCB into Debian - New

New — Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:59:35 +0200

New

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awesome 3: Lua integration - lx

lx — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 06:27:19 +0200

Between switching to autoconf, doxygen bloat and this Lua shift, this makes dwm look user-friendly. So I switched to that. Awesome is a nice OS, but I prefer UNIX.

awesome 3: Lua integration - calmar

calmar — Fri, 30 May 2008 23:07:23 +0200

(ignore the typos etc. please.. on the above message)

awesome 3: Lua integration - calmar

calmar — Fri, 30 May 2008 23:01:32 +0200

The lua integration is just great and very clean thing.

Besides it allows to do things, you can't at all without.

It's still possible to have a awesome-2 like 'awesome-wm'. The conversion from the old config to the new one, is as easy as 123 - e.g. could be make automatically even..

(I personally have no loops in my lua configuration to keep it even more simple. Only simple one-line statements more or less. A loop may needs somekind of thinking, what I don't like to do there

awesome 3: Lua integration - harry myyers

harry myyers — Thu, 22 May 2008 15:02:11 +0200

The conclusion of the above-said can only be (in my case): /bye awesome
And that is really a great pity.

A fork. Yes, that would be nice. One awesome for the users, the ordinary people and one for those high-class ingenious hackers.

awesome 3: Lua integration - jd

jd — Wed, 21 May 2008 15:20:58 +0200

I know that people are afraid of Lua style config file.

Well, if you think that the default configuration file is not clear and easy, well, I cannot do anything for you.

Just fork awesome 2 branch and do your own!

PS: I never understood the Ion configuration file neither.

awesome 3: Lua integration - Matt

Matt — Wed, 21 May 2008 14:43:07 +0200

Wow... now I have to find yet another WM that does not go overboard with nonsense. First Tuomo goes bonkers, now you add Lua... and DWM is just a wannabe-elitist group of hackkzorzz.
What is so hard about delivering a tiling wm with a set feature-list, like all of the non-tiling-wms have?
Why not add a plugin-System and leave the rest alone?
I am really really disappointed with this decision.

awesomeUsers--;

awesome 3: Lua integration - arg

arg — Wed, 21 May 2008 14:00:18 +0200

To be honest I think you waste your time with Lua.

In dwm I initially decided to go with C-based configuration because of exactly the reasons why you are now switching to Lua -- having conditional setups, extending the functionality etc.

If you don't like compile-time setups, you should consider that it's easy to recompile the window manager whenever you start/restart from a script or even just running it in a C interpreter (tcc provides this for example, you don't need to compile the whole stuff as a binary at all).

The nice thing about this is, you get rid of yet another clunky dependency - which is a different language -, but you achieve the same, in the same language your software is written in... That's far more natural than going the complex way like Tuomo did and others before...

Just my 2cts.

awesome 3: Lua integration - Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 21 May 2008 05:47:26 +0200

Awww. I liked awesome so much for not embedding a scripting language. I would have rather seen some C library or messaging interface (D-BUS, for instance) for poking awesome objects dynamically, with various language wrappers around it. Instead, you've embedded one particular language into awesome.

awesome: from 2 to 3 - jd

jd — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 10:55:46 +0200

Tabs were implemented in a early 1.x version and have been removed since the implementation was very wrong and bugged.

As far as I can remember they were not planned in any roadmap since 2.x versions, and are still not.

Then that's free software, so you can do it

awesome: from 2 to 3 - Frank

Frank — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 17:02:30 +0200

What happened to the tab support? I'm ion3 user and tab suport in awesome is the only thing holding me to switch. It was promised for 2.2, then for 2.3 and now I don't see it even on the list of goals for 3?

Are chickens hacking? - jd

jd — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 07:38:28 +0100

No, sudo is not a IDS.

Are chickens hacking? - edo

edo — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 05:36:19 +0100

ahem... isn't it stupid to have a control system to send a mail to sysadmin if someone's tries and fails to 'sudo' and have the option to not do it? :-$

Are chickens hacking? - jd

jd — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:39:37 +0100

sudo -l

does not send mail

Are chickens hacking? - Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:14:11 +0100

Not using sudo makes sense; if you don't already have root, no way exists to find out if you can sudo that won't generate a mail to the sysadmin if you can't, short of grepping .bash_history for "sudo". Even then, many people have sudo configured to require a password.

EWMH and XRandR - Joachim Breitner

Joachim Breitner — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 22:44:31 +0100

Funny, while you were posting that, I was trying to improve the EWMH support for xmonad, and were hitting the same problems as you did.

My best approximation was mark the currently focused workspace ("desktop") as the current one, and display the windows from other visible workspaces in the same desktop EWMH wise (which means that that window stays then empty in the panel). Probably hard to explan, actually

Let me know if you have some great hack to force EWMH to do what you want.

Time < work - jd

jd — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:24:54 +0100

it will come with awesome 2.0-rc1.

Time < work - Dave

Dave — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:50:15 +0100

I'm looking forward to awesome in Debian!

awesome developement - xorg62

xorg62 — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 18:02:58 +0100

salut
j'utilise awesome depuis plus d'un mois et
et je trouve ça genial !

continue a l'ameliorer comme ça tu fait du super boulot !

awesome developement - Sylphe

Sylphe — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:16:26 +0100

Je teste awesome depuis seulement 4 jours et j'ai l'impression d'avoir enfin trouvé le wm qui me convient.

Donc merci à toi et aux contributeurs, le développement prend de belles voies.

awesome - Mafiou

Mafiou — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:14:07 +0200

I know this guy for about ten years so I'm not surprised. Since then, he's been LEGEN ... wait for it ... DARY.

awesome - jay

jay — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 09:13:44 +0200

"there's no stupid limit on its source size, we have features we want."

I never understood why imposing an arbitrary source code size limit would help quality; congrats to this decision

awesome - Arthur

Arthur — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:43:18 +0200

A very good wm and a good replacement for my dwm, awesome!

awesome - jd

jd — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:17:33 +0200

Not yet because of a dependency problem

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugr...

awesome - Nelson A. de Oliveira

Nelson A. de Oliveira — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 19:45:59 +0200

Debian package, please?